00:00 Speaker A
You say one of the risks is that AI cannibalizes users. Well, basically, it's going to be more of a destructive force than a productive force. What will happen to it? What will it be like?
00:14 ian
Well, we believe that it will be a productive force. Because these are the biggest risks that we focus on, we don't focus as much on all of the innovative positive possibilities of AI that are happening every day. If you look at industrial applications, biotechnology, medical applications, national security applications, AI is truly revolutionary. But here we are talking about consumer applications. Specifically, since these companies are spending such huge amounts of money, they will be squeezed by investors to make a profit. Commercializing AI bots for consumers also means experimenting with populations in real time to capture data and ensure engagement. And that's a really dangerous thing to do. Vaccines won't do that, even during a pandemic. We test them first to make sure they are safe. Even though people are starving all over the world, GMO foods rarely do that. First, we make it and then test it to make it safe. But when we talk about AI and algorithms and chatbots, we're actually testing them on the public in real time. When it is motivated by urgent profit impulses, it becomes very dangerous to society and very dangerous to our politics.
01:26 Speaker A
And we are witnessing an example of this right now. Glock has been criticized for opening the floodgates to sexualized images, with AI reportedly creating the images and taking some steps to take them down, for example. Do you think there should be any regulation of this type of activity?
01:50 ian
That's correct. Well, let's test it in real time on the population first and then walk back after that. Well, it's unique in our environment because we don't have a regulatory environment around us. Again, it's kind of amazing that we're letting kids participate in that. Well, any adult is allowed. That is, in today's society, there are people who interact with you solely to achieve their goals, but as long as they make you happy by ensuring that that interaction happens, they have no impact whatsoever and are indifferent to what it does to you. We call them sociopaths, right? And we will do everything possible to protect ourselves and our children from them. Well, that's exactly how these AI bots are programmed to deal with citizens. Um, I might have to wait until the damage is done and ah, reprogram it. And it is the companies themselves who are responsible for making that decision. Oh, and there's no regulatory oversight. And Europe, which has tried to do the most, has less growth, less productivity, and less large technology companies, so it's becoming more and more aligned with the American model, er, the Wild West, and not the American argument that we need to learn more from the Europeans in thinking about the safety of our citizens.
03:03 Speaker A
And it's always great to talk to you, even if it's a little depressing. So
03:07 ian
Oh, it's not. Please talk.
03:08 Speaker A
I think so. Understood.
03:09 Speaker A
Thank you, Ian.
