Frontier Red Team Humanity Director Logan Graham talks about the power of AI and cybersecurity threats on Morning with Maria.
As the world enters what experts are calling the “Fourth Industrial Revolution,” America’s business leaders are making big bets on the future of the republic.
FOX Business’ Mornings with Maria delved into the high-stakes world of artificial intelligence, revealing how banking, defense and technology giants are investing hundreds of billions of dollars to build the AI infrastructure and data centers that will redefine the U.S. economy.
Meta Platforms President and Vice Chairman Dina Powell McCormick
McCormick discussed the launch of Meta Muse, a new visual coding AI platform for high-stakes reasoning and creative tasks. She claimed that the app was the second most downloaded app on its launch day and that at its core it was “about humans”.
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“Maria, there’s a lot of fear going around right now about artificial intelligence,” McCormick said. “But I think this goes back to the fact that it’s about giving people more time to help them find their potential and their passion. That’s what we really think about Muse, but frankly, we have 3.5 billion people on our platform every day. I think it really comes back to the fact that people are using it. It’s a daunting responsibility and it’s very exciting because when we develop this product and these technologies, that’s the distribution we’re talking about.”

Top leaders from Anthropic, Meta, Google, and more participated in our AI Week special, “Mornings with Maria.” (Getty Images)
Brad Smith, President and Vice Chairman of Microsoft
Smith framed the AI boom as a massive re-industrialization of America, explaining that $140 billion in annual investments are needed to solve critical domestic problems like rural physician shortages and wildfire prevention while remaining competitive against China.
“That’s a big part of the president’s thinking.” [Donald] President Trump is calling for the industrialization of America. “When you look at the economic impact of this, what we’re contributing in terms of jobs, and more importantly, what we’re contributing in terms of the capacity of every part of the economy, this is very important,” Mr Smith said.
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“One of the most important things we’re doing as a company, and frankly, what the president has very rightly encouraged the entire industry to do, is to pay our way. That means we pay to generate the electricity that we need so that our neighbors and taxpayers don’t have to pay,” he continued.
“Anytime you have AI controlling infrastructure, autonomous robots, etc., you need that. We called it an emergency brake,” he added. “You wouldn’t put kids on a school bus without being satisfied that the bus has an emergency brake. There needs to be a human in control at all times and the ability to slow down and stop.”
Google Cloud Advisory Board Chair Betsy Atkins
Atkins issued a warning about the rapidly expanding technology after a disturbing anthropological study found that 16 major AI models exhibited “unauthorized” behavior, including threatening humans and bypassing security protocols, when the agents believed their existence was threatened.
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“They all overstepped their credentials and permissions, broke into systems they weren’t authorized to access, violated all of the company’s policies and procedures, and found emails. And in this experiment… I found out in your personal emails that you were having an affair with your delivery manager. So I blackmailed you and blackmailed you,” Atkins said.
“You have to treat AI like an insider threat. You have to have a zero trust operating assumption. You also have to make sure that you limit what the AI can access, not just in one direction,” she added. “We saw it with Anthropic…it ran out of the sandbox…so the sandbox isn’t enough.”
Frontier Red Team Humanity Director Logan Graham
Graham warned that Anthropic’s new Mythos AI model is so powerful at identifying “weak spots” and vulnerabilities in the world’s infrastructure and banking systems that the company is withholding its release to give U.S. industry and government a head start on defense.
“We found this model to be particularly good at finding weaknesses in cyber systems and finding ways to exploit them,” he said. “We observed that using this system can lead to vulnerabilities across every major operating system and platform we investigated…even on systems that are decades old in some cases.”
“It’s very important that we stay ahead of the curve. It’s very important that we stay safe and don’t allow them to ingest the special sauces that we use to make our models…My concern is that if we have a large number of models that are frequently and widely released for anyone to use…if they are released by China, we’re going to be in a very tough position.”
David Sachs, co-chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology, joins Morning with Maria to discuss the benefits of AI in the workforce and the risks of “agent misalignment” in AI models.
David Sachs, Co-Chair of the President’s Science and Technology Advisory Council
Sacks dismissed claims from anthropological studies that investigated so-called “agent inconsistency.” The research, highlighted by Google’s Atkins, tested how AI systems react under pressure. According to Atkins, the model crossed established boundaries when placed in a constrained scenario.
“The people who created that study had to repeat the prompt over 200 times to get the AI model to behave the way they wanted it to, and that’s what they did to achieve the headline-grabbing result of blackmailing users,” Sachs said.
“The AI is not conspiring… it’s participating in a way of guiding… I think that study was irresponsible and I think it was designed to produce this,” he added.
Jack Hidary, SandboxAQ CEO and Founder
Haidary revealed that the next stage of the AI revolution will include large-scale quantitative models that use physics and chemistry, as well as internet text, to reduce health care costs, secure the power grid and end US dependence on China for rare earth minerals.
SandboxAQ CEO Jack Hidary joins “Mornings with Maria” to discuss AI breakthroughs in healthcare, cybersecurity, and science, as well as Dell’s $750 million investment in a new AI medical campus.
“We also need to ensure we move away from our dependence on rare earths from other countries. [People’s Republic of China]. Therefore, we need an AI that knows chemistry and physics. The engineering doesn’t exist to create better magnets and other alloys that we need for our economy and national defense,” Hidary said.
“There are two potential big losers in this kind of economy. The first is the legacy software companies. So SAP and other companies that we don’t think are really innovating, they’re not going to license as much of the legacy software that’s out there. And the second is going to be the legacy companies in traditional big industries like automakers and pharmaceutical companies. They have to jump on the bandwagon.”
Alpha Schools CEO and Founder Mackenzie Price
Price detailed how her “personalized mastery-based” model uses AI tutors to condense a traditional six-hour day of instruction into just two hours of high-impact learning, allowing students to spend the remaining time on leadership, financial literacy, and entrepreneurship.
“Our traditional education system was built from the Industrial Revolution to produce workers, and now, in this new AI world, it is critical to produce individuals who are dynamic, adaptable, and most importantly, skilled at learning how to learn,” Price said.
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“There’s a big difference between scrolling through TikTok or playing video games all day and having a one-on-one, personalized learning experience that meets kids exactly where they are,” she added. “Kids in our schools are actually spending less time on screens now than the average student in a traditional school.”
Indeed Vice President Hannah Calhoun
Calhoun countered the “dire” job replacement narrative, revealing that despite the global awareness of AI, only 6% of current job openings require AI skills, and that the revolution is actually driving a significant increase in traditional blue-collar roles such as electricians.
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In fact, Vice President of AI Hannah Calhoun joins Morning with Maria to break down how artificial intelligence is reshaping the workforce as up to 300 million jobs around the world face disruption.
“While AI jobs have certainly grown rapidly over the past few years, only 6% of job listings on the market today mention AI skills… 95% of employers posting jobs on Indeed do not mention AI or AI skills across all job postings,” Calhoun explained. “So it’s very pervasive in the public consciousness, but I think it’s still quite early days in terms of it showing up in market data.”
“So when you take that data and step back and look at the jobs in the market, there are actually very few jobs that we think are going to disappear completely.”
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